Posts by Disillusioned JW

  • Blotty
    98

    Who raised Jesus from the dead?

    by Blotty in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

    (bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

    galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.

    1. Disillusioned JW
    2. Disillusioned JW
    3. wozza
  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    In one the pages of this topic thread Sea Breeze provided a link to https://island.lk/lucidity-before-death-brain-releasing-consciousness/ in an effort to support his claims regarding “terminal lucidity”. That article presents ideas which challenge some of my beliefs regarding human consciousness. After reading it I then found an article at https://www.newsweek.com/near-death-experiences-out-body-phenomenon-study-1757602 which might provide some support for some of Sea Breeze's claims of “terminal lucidity” and of the idea that the human mind might not be a product of the brain. Newsweek is a news journal which I have trusted since childhood as a reliable source of news, including on matters of science. The article has numerous quotes of Dr. Sam Parnia, the lead investigator of a study "which was presented at the American Heart Association's Scientific Sessions 2022". The article says the study "showed a spike in gamma wave brain activity. Gamma waves are active when a conscious person retrieves memories and mentally processes information." The article also says the following.

    'Researchers across 25 institutions were equipped with electroencephalograms (EEGs) and other equipment. When emergency personnel was notified of a person in cardiac arrest, the researchers also were notified and were able to record the patient's brain activity while the medical team provided life-saving care.

    According to the study, humans recalling a lucid heightened experience reported similar happenings and themes during the experience.

    ... But a different experience specifically caught Parnia's attention.

    "The most interesting aspect of this is [the patient] starts to have full memories of everything they have done and all their thoughts and intentions toward other people throughout their entire life," he said, relating the memory recognition as equivalent to an instant computer data download.

    ... "It's a purposeful, meaningful reevaluation of every aspect with a focus on morality and ethics and how they conducted themselves. It's really quite bizarre," he said.

    One of the most fascinating discoveries, according to Parnia, is that a person's consciousness doesn't die when the body dies.

    "What seems to be happening as a person is dying, their brain is shutting down and in this process disinhibition, braking systems [in the brain] are being removed because they are no longer relevant," said Parnia, referencing how people can only access a small part of their brain's consciousness at one time.

    "This disinhibition seems to give access to parts of the brain become activated and seeing spikes in EEG activity and gives access to dimensions of reality they otherwise did not have access to, including full consciousness."

    The study, which was internally and independently peer-reviewed, found those who survived resuscitation and recalled a lucid heightened experience returned to regular consciousness and came equipped with a higher purpose.'

    After reading that article I then found and read the article located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Parnia about Parnia. It says he is "... associate professor of Medicine at the NYU Langone Medical Center where he is also director of research into cardiopulmonary resuscitation. The article also says the following.

    'Parnia and others have suggested that a mind that is mediated by, but not produced by, the brain, is a possible way to explain NDE.[5][28][29]

    ...In a review article published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences,[31] Parnia admits that the nature of consciousness is still uncharted territory for science. Two different major models have been postulated about the nature of consciousness:
    1. one envisages the psyche/consciousness/mind (self) as the result of neuronal activity. So a causative relationship exists between cortical activity and consciousness.
    2. the other instead considers that consciousness is separate from the brain and can influence brain activity independently of the brain.

    Parnia explains that the observations that "the human mind, consciousness, or psyche (self) may continue to function when brain function has ceased during the early period after death" (such as during the AWARE study, but not only) points to the possibility that the second model may have to be taken into account.[31] '

    That also might also support some of Sea Breeze's claims.

    I plan to comment more about these articles after I do the following: do some other tasks, analyze further the three articles, and do further research on the topic.

  • Kosonen
    30

    What really is UN doing with religions?

    by Kosonen in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    occult un forces seek to hijack religion for globalism.

    https://thenewamerican.com/occult-un-forces-seek-to-hijack-religion-for-globalism/it does not look like religions dominate un but the other way around.

    journalist alex newman gives a totally different picture about the real state of affairs.

    1. Kosonen
    2. enoughisenough
    3. Disillusioned JW
  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    Kosonen I noticed that you said the UN has a prayer room (though the article which you linked to says it is 'The Meditation Room, sometimes called “A Room of Quiet” ' instead of calling it a prayer room). I don't find that surprising since many years after I graduated from my university I noticed in a visit to my university that it now has a prayer-meditation room for the students. It even includes a Bible and a Koran in the room. However I was initially surprised when I discovered that my university now has prayer-meditation room for the students.